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The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur news and links for Tuesday, August 20

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good morning!

Welp, that’s Match Week 1 in the books.

What did we learn? Well, if you’re hear to learn about Tottenham, let me just redirect you to Menno’s talking points from yesterday’s 1-1 draw vs Leicester.

But we learned a couple other things: Villa are pretty darn good, Ipswich Town aren’t going to get rolled over this season and at least we’re still not Chelsea.

Let’s take a look around at some of the best pictures from MW1:

Ipswich Town vs Leicester

Premier League football is back at Portman Road. For proof, take a look at Leif Davis here.

It’s nice to see some clubs freshen up the top flight. Luton Town last year was nice, so was Nottingham Forest that first year (then it just got weird). Now we’ve got Ipswich Town. I’m rooting for them to stay up. There’s enough bad clubs out there to give them some hope.

Everton vs Brighton

This was a pretty bad weekend for Everton. Losing 0-3 to Brighton at home to kick off the campaign is ominous for the rest of the season.

But here let’s look at the giant screen in the background, explaining why Ashley Young received a red card. A step in the right direction for transparency.

Tottenham Hotspur vs Leicester

This one’s mostly for fitzie. Jamie Vardy puts the captain’s armband on Harry Winks as he gets subbed off during the Foxes’ 1-1 draw vs Spurs.

Love to see Harry winks become such a big part of Leicester’s leadership after only a season or so.

Fitzie’s track of the day: Turned Out I Was Everyone, by Sasami

And now for your links:

The Athletic ($$) with talking points from yesterday’s Spurs-Leicester game

Dan KP on a ‘familiar frustration’ with Tottenham

Ange Postecoglou says Rodrigo Bentancur ‘conscious and communicating’ after head injury

Leicester 1-1 Tottenham: ten takeaways from a frustrating away draw

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Well, I promised y’all match notes and observations as soon as I had the chance to watch the game, and that’s what you’re getting. Tottenham’s 1-1 draw at Leicester City felt like one that got away — a mostly solid performance against a newly-promoted team that nonetheless displayed some of the same deficiencies that plagued the team all last season. Should we be worried about that? I dunno. We definitely shouldn’t overreact to an away draw, but this did feel like one that could’ve — and should’ve — gone very differently.

Here are my takeaways from a frustrating draw at the King Power.

Spurs were mostly good against a bad team

Tottenham got two good chances inside 10 minutes — one off a set piece flick-on from Cuti Romero that was cleared off the line and another shot by Rodrigo Bentancur saved — and did well when Leicester allowed them to have the ball, which was a lot of the first half. There were lots of runs and touches in the box, they mostly kept the home side pinned in their own half and you could dismiss the missed chances as first-game wobbles. Tottenham’s goal was vintage Ange-ball: fast passing, progressive, a great ball in from James Maddison, and a well-placed header from Pedro Porro. All good stuff.

But Spurs failing to capitalize on all of that positive field tilt was frustrating, and the wheels really fell off after Leicester equalized. Between that and the Bentancur injury Spurs quickly went from organized to disjointed, exhausted, and off-kilter. Spurs’ subs didn’t look comfortable playing with each other and struggled when Steve Cooper’s side sat back and started playing defend-and-counter. There are warning signs here, but also if one of Romero or Solanke’s early chances go in, I think Spurs cruise in this one and win big. There were some familiar (negative) signs, especially in the second half, but not enough to really worry me... yet.

Solanke’s role is apparent, if the finishing isn’t

We haven’t had a chance to see Dominic Solanke play for Tottenham until now, and his first match was a pretty clear indication on how Ange Postecoglou plans to use him. Solanke was fast, direct, and liked to get onto the ball, which was about what we expected. He had a number of chances — both headed and not — and was getting into fantastic positions to receive the ball and shoot. While those chances weren’t converted and were often straight at the keeper, you can clearly see the broad strokes of how Postecoglou wants him to be utilized. Frustrating that he didn’t get on the scoresheet with the chances he had, but the good news is that he had a number of good chances. It’s been a while since we’ve had a striker this good in the air. That bodes well.

Spurs’ defense was good... until it wasn’t

Tottenham’s first choice defense of Pedro Porro, Romero, Micky van de Ven, and Destiny Udogie mostly coped well with Leicester’s counterattacking play, but the goal conceded was awful — Romero leaving Vardy wide open at the back post was unfathomable — and the aftermath seemed to throw them for a loop. Spurs’ defense is designed to allow big chances, and have the pace to neutralize them. But falling apart on one of those forward runs is always a possibility and Spurs gave up quite a few big ones, especially in the second period. In fact, it didn’t look much like Spurs’ transition defense had improved at all since last year — the same built-in frailties, the same silly mistakes that lead to big chances. Frustrating.

Brennan Johnson was frustrating as hell

Brennan Johnson is the definition of a streaky player — he’ll put in a couple moments of magic or an excellent pinpoint cross, and then disappear for large stretches, or just jog up and down the pitch instead of taking players on, or do something idiotic that makes you tear your hair out. In this one he had what might have been the defensive play of the match and one good volley that was begging to be tapped in (but wasn’t), but very little otherwise. He has displayed flashes of the talent we expected of him in that position, but he NEEDS to show more, especially in matches like this one.

Is Son cooked? Too soon to say.

Son’s one of Tottenham’s all-time best players, but all preseason I’ve worried about him, because his touch and shot have seemed to be a step or two slow. He showed that again today — too often it seemed as though Sonny either took an extra touch, or a heavy one, or opted to make a high-risk pass instead of taking a shot. He really didn’t offer much from the left flank which left the offense to basically be run by James Maddison. Is it too soon to be worried about him? Maybe. I hope so.

Spurs need another source of creativity besides James Maddison

I’m not the only one who was worried about James Maddison after preseason, because he definitely looked off the boil all summer. But in this one against his old club, he basically ran the show in a match where neither Johnson nor Son looked especially great from the flanks. It’s notable that Leicester’s goal and Tottenham’s period of largesse came after he tired and then came off. His replacement, Dejan Kulusevski, started bright but then disappeared and Spurs had little to offer going forward after that point. Tottenham need to get more from its creative players not named James Maddison or it could be a very long season.

Ange’s match management was questionable

Far be it from me to criticize a manager who’s been in football as long as Ange Postecoglou... but I’m going to do it anyway because he had some baffling decisions. Once again he seemed to leave his substitutions too late and in a reactionary way, and while I credit him for the quadruple sub and the 4-1-4-1 shape change late, that change could’ve happened five minutes earlier and have arguably been more effective. I also can’t understand leaving a clearly injured Pedro Porro on the pitch as long as he did. Weird stuff, but maybe that’s just Ange?

Bentancur’s injury puts even more pressure on Bissouma

Rodrigo Bentancur had a couple of shots saved and overall had a decent (if not exceptional) match in place of the suspended Yves Bissouma. His injury was from a head-to-head collision on a corner kick and looked nasty in real time. I don’t know how long he’ll be out, but I’d be surprised if he’s back for Crystal Palace Everton on Saturday, which means Yves Bissouma needs to be fantastic, and stay healthy or Spurs are in a heap of trouble. If rumors connecting Spurs to another central midfielder are true, that might help alleviate things, but that midfielder might not be a six, which... hrm.

The kids are (mostly) all right

I don’t think Postecoglou expected to use Lucas Bergvall and Archie Gray as much as he needed to in this match, but the suspension to Yves Bissouma and injury to Rodrigo Bentancur kind of forced his hand. Bergvall looked saucy and confident, and rarely failed to show for the ball, but had that one major defensive mistake that got him screamed at by Guglielmo Vicario, and he looked a little sloppy at times. Gray looked extremely one-footed (he is) and a little out of his depth. I don’t want to criticize them too harshly — both are teenagers playing in their first Premier League match and Spurs perked up via Bergvall’s play as soon as he came on. These early minutes could pay big dividends down the road.

Don’t panic!

Leicester City 1-1 Tottenham: Match Reaction Open Thread

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New season, same old Spurs. Tottenham Hotspur earned a 1-1 draw today at newly-promoted Leicester City. Pedro Porro put Spurs ahead in the first half with a thumping header from a cross by James Maddison, but Leicester equalized through a wide-open Jamie Vardy header midway through the second half. Tottenham weren’t able to get the winner and earn a point in a match that, in retrospect, they’ll probably look back on with regret.

The big story in the second half was an injury to Rodrigo Bentancur that resulted him him being stretchered off under concussion protocol. We don’t know his status yet but it didn’t look great (although he was sitting up and conscious by the end).

You know what really sucks about having Tottenham Hotspur play on a Monday? Sometimes you expect to be able to half-watch the match while you’re doing your day job, only to find out that you’ve been invited to a meeting that then goes 90 minutes longer than scheduled and you don’t get to watch any of it.

Yeah, that’s what happened to me today. I know you’re all expecting my takeaways from this match, and you’ll get them. But it won’t be immediately, because I didn’t even really get a chance to watch any of the first 65 minutes of this match in real time.

So I’ll get my match reactions once I have a chance to re-watch it this evening. In the meantime, this is your open thread. Put your match reactions in the comments, and I’ll tell you what I think as soon as I’m able.

Sorry y’all, can’t be helped and the day job always comes first. We’ll do better this weekend.

Tottenham confirms squad numbers ahead of first Premier League match

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With just a couple of hours before starting their 2024-25 Premier League campaign, Tottenham Hotspur have confirmed the squad’s kit numbers. Nothing has radically changed, but they also announced that Pape Matar Sarr will keep the #29 shirt but will have the name “P.M. SARR” on the back rather than just SARR as in last year.

Neat! Here’s the full list of squad names/numbers.

*On loan for 2024/25

And yes, Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg and Bryan Gill, despite no longer being at the club, still have registered squad numbers because they are technically on loan.

As I like to say whenever we get kit number posts — you may now order your shirts with confidence!

Leicester City vs. Tottenham Hotspur: game time, live blog, and how to watch online

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The rubber now hits the road. Preseason is done, there’s no more warm-ups, and there’s three points on the line.

Tottenham Hotspur kick off their 24/25 Premier League campaign today against newly promoted Leicester City. Are you excited? Terrified? All of the above? One thing’s for sure, expectations are sky high after a strong preseason and some splurges in the transfer market - not to mention even more time for Ange-ball to bed in.

It’ll be a chance for Spurs fans to welcome back Harry Winks as well, now a key part of Leicester’s midfield; and to potentially farewell Oliver Skipp as he nears a possible move to the Foxes.

The waiting’s over - let’s do this.

COYS!

Lineups

Live Blog

How to Watch

Leicester City vs. Tottenham Hotspur

King Power Stadium, Leicester, UK

Monday, August 19, 2024

Time: 3:00 p.m. ET, 8:00 p.m. UK

TV: USA Network, Sky Sports Premier League (UK). Check international listings at livesoccertv.com

Streaming: nbcsports.com

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DONE DEAL: Oliver Skipp finalizes transfer to Leicester City

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Farewell, sweet prince. Tottenham Hotspur and Leicester City have finalized the sale of Spurs academy graduate and central midfielder Oliver Skipp. According to David Ornstein in The Athletic, the fee was £20m, plus 5m in performance based add-ons, for a potential total of £25m

There isn’t much I can say that Matty didn’t already say when the news first broke of an agreement between Spurs and Leicester. I think we all wanted Skippy to break into the first team and become the next Harry Kane — a Champions League-caliber homegrown and club-trained player, at the club since he was eight, who would end up a one-club man like Ledley King. It’s a nice fairy tale story, but there’s a reason fairy tales are shelved in the fiction section.

The truth is, as nice a guy as Skipp is (and I quite like him) he simply was not at the level Ange Postecoglou needed for his team. Football is a cruel business, and it means that a young player Jose Mourinho called “a future Tottenham club captain” will now join, and likely partner with, another former Spurs homegrown midfielder in Harry Winks at Leicester. And boy oh boy am I ever curious to see how THAT’S going to work out!

£20m+ for Skipp makes him one of the most valuable Spurs academy graduates sales in club history, second in absolute financial terms behind Harry Kane’s transfer to Bayern last summer. He’s one of the best Spurs players to come out of the academy in the Premier League era. That makes Oliver Skipp an exceptional outcome for Tottenham’s academy, even if he ultimately didn’t stick in Spurs’ first team.

Tottenham will have some tough choices to make with regards to their Europa League squad construction, but that was true irrespective of what happens to Oliver Skipp. In the meantime, I can say a heartfelt thank you to Oliver for his many, many years of service to the club. You earned it, buddy.

Now, I hope he has a relegation break clause in his new contract...

No-dobert: Tottenham’s newest signing will not play vs. Leicester

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Bad news if you were hoping to see Tottenham Hotspur’s newest signing Wilson Odobert in action today in Spurs’ Premier League opener at Leicester City. According to Dan Kilpatrick, Odobert will not feature in the match as he has not yet secured a work permit which will allow him to play.

Spurs fans will also not need to worry that Oliver Skipp will line up in the other team’s colors today — although he’s expected to complete his move to Leicester, he will not play for the Foxes against Tottenham.

That’s a bit of a bummer — I was looking forward to seeing what Odobert could do against a newly promoted side, and the nature of his transfer means he’s still a big box with a “?” on the side of it to me. I guess I will need to be content with (maybe) watching his debut home to Everton next Saturday. Spurs will also be without Yves Bissouma, who is suspended by the club after posting a video of himself inhaling nitrous oxide at a club on his social media feeds.

Elsewhere, Kilpatrick dropped a small, but rather consequential nugget of information, suggesting Spurs will NOT be focused on bringing in a new No. 6, instead trusting that they have what they need in the performances of Lucas Bergvall and Archie Gray this summer. That seems a bit weird to me — both are 18, and only Gray is really a 6 and even he is basically an intern on that role at this level — but I guess we should trust Ange that he knows what he’s doing.

Spurs will likely utilize Rodrigo Bentancur in Bissouma’s spot, alongside James Maddison and either Pape Sarr or Bergvall today. We’ll find out in a few hours.

The Hoddle of Coffee: Tottenham Hotspur news and links for Monday, August 19

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good morning!

I’ve never felt so conflicted about Tottenham in my life. This must be how many of you felt about City-Spurs last season.

What am I to do? Root against Harry Winks? Tottenham legend Harry Winks? The Harry Winks whom fitzie has spent YEARS (literal years!!!) defending against the world?

And yet here I find myself, rooting against Harry Winks.

I think I’ve found out a good compromise. I will root for individual brilliance from Harry Winks, whilst simultaneously rooting for a 5-0 Spurs win.

Sorted. Done.

Because Tottenham Hotspur football is BACK!!!

It’s so lame we had to wait the entire weekend and then some to watch our beloved boys in lillywhite (and Harry Winks, let’s not forget him) play meaningful football again.

So share where you’ll be watching from. I’m particularly interested in you West Coast American fans. A 12pm Monday kickoff? Time your lunch breaks well.

As for me, I’ll be trying to figure out which kit to wear. Do I wear my tried-and-tested Kyle Walker shirt, the 2018-19 Winks third kit, last year’s Sonny away kit? I’m torn! Maybe I’ll switch out every thirty minutes.

Regardless where you’ll be following from or what you’ll be wearing (hopefully some clothing, but let’s not get too personal please), Tottenham Hotspur football is BACK !!

Fitzie’s track of the day: Ba-Lue Bolivar Ba-Lues-Are, by Thelonious Monk

And now for your links:

Dan KP: Ange Postecoglou on why Dominic Solanke will be a star for Spurs

Jack P-B ($$) says this is the biggest season of James Maddison’s career

Antonio Conte’s Napoli lose 0-3 to Hellas Verona in Serie A opener

BREAKING: Spurs, Leicester agree deal for Oliver Skipp

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The transfer exodus continues at Tottenham Hotspur, as does the speed of the movement. This time it’s the Ornacle himself, David Ornstein of The Athletic, who has the latest on Oliver Skipp’s situation:

Well, that was quick. There’d been rumors around a possible move by Monday’s opponent, Leicester City, for midfielder Oliver Skipp, but nothing concrete; however, that smoke has now very quickly materialized into something much more solid.

One of Spurs’ academy graduates, Skippy was once described by Jose Mourinho as a future Tottenham captain. In recent years, though, things haven’t gone to plan for the all-action midfielder: after struggling for playing time under Antonio Conte, he did initially look to be a key part of Ange Postecoglou’s Tottenham revolution, before he quickly saw his minutes dwindle as Pape Matar Sarr usurped him in the pecking order. By the end of last season, he was struggling to see the pitch at all.

Let’s be real: though Skipp has played with effort and passion, his ability isn’t up to scratch in terms of what Spurs need. His ability on the ball as well as his pace can be lacking, and those are both attributes Ange values hugely, and arguably are traits needed for a side challenging up near the top end of the table. With that in mind, Leicester is probably a good destination for Skipp; somewhere we he can really cement his place in a squad looking to push for Premier League survival and more. Premier League starter, albeit for a bottom half club, is still an admirable standard to achieve!

I’m sure more details will filter through as to the details of the deal; my thinking is it’ll be somewhere in the £20 million region. Expect this to go quickly now - as Ornstein mentions in his piece, the medical has been booked and other sources have said Skipp has said his goodbyes to his teammates.

Farewell, Skippy - it wasn’t to be at Spurs, but I’m sure you will give your all for Leicester.

Red Djed Redemption: Postecoglou confirms Spence is in his Tottenham plans

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The Djedaissance continues. Earlier in the week, Ange Postecoglou had said that fullback Djed Spence, once a “club signing” ignored by Antonio Conte and certain to leave the club one way or another, is now back with Tottenham’s first team and part of his plans after a solid preseason that earned him a seat on the team’s trip to Asia. Today, in embargoed comments to the press, Big Ange doubled down — Djed, back from a successful loan last season at Genoa in Italy, is a first team player, he’s training well, his attitude is good, and he will get opportunities to play football for Tottenham Hotspur.

“It’s one of those things that when you start pre-season, we had quite a few guys who were out on loan last year. Part of me is saying, OK, we need to keep evolving this squad. The guys go out on loan for a reason.

“Have they come back [and now] are they a better fit, are they part of what we’re doing? With Djed, I had an open mind. I certainly think the kind of characteristics he has would fit into our football. It’s then more about, OK, well he obviously didn’t fit last year, will he fit this year?

“He’s had a good pre-season. He’s trained really well. He seems to have fit into the group really well.”

Djed is a rare redemption story in a Tottenham team that hasn’t had very many of them lately. It’s a welcome surprise — not only does Spence fill a position of need as a utility fullback who can play on both sides of the pitch, but he’s homegrown (if not club-trained), and most importantly, he’s already here.

Most of Djed’s minutes in preseason have come playing on the left side of defense, which is not his natural position — he was signed as a right back. He’s shown a little discomfort at times in Spurs’ preseason friendlies on the left, but he’s equally shown the ability to get forward with the ball and with glimpses of real quality. Postecoglou said that ability to play on the left is valuable to the team, even if it’s not his preferred side.

“I don’t think left-back is his obvious position, I think he’s more of a right full-back, but the fact that he can play out on the left, again gives us some good options into the season where with European football we’re going to have more challenges. It was quite obvious last year that whenever we had disruptions in terms of injuries or suspensions, our performance dropped a fair bit. We’re trying to narrow that gap.

“Hopefully having Djed as part of our squad allows us to do that. He’s training well, he’s available for Monday and I’ll make those decisions at the weekend.”

Spence’s professional career has been dogged by allegations of a poor attitude, whether it was beefing with his manager Neil Warnock while at Middlesbrough (and petty sniping on loan at Nottingham Forest), feeling affronted by Antonio Conte’s “club signing” comments, and having his loan terminated at Leeds by Daniel Farke, it sometimes felt like Spence couldn’t get out of his own way. And it’s true, at times his former manager had him Djed to rights with regards to his attitude, especially when he felt cornered or disrespected.

That doesn’t seem to be the case here. Postecoglou confirmed that he and Spurs’ staff have had no issues with Spence since his return this summer, and no suggestions of any clashes with Tottenham’s staff. Ange gives all the credit for that to Djed, and it’s not a Djedi mind trick.

“You would know about it if it was [a problem]. He wouldn’t be part of it if it was. But that’s probably something that, whether that was right or wrong, as a person and as a player, Djed has taken responsibility for that and not allowed that to be part of the conversation this pre-season.

“For me and all the coaches, we’ve had absolutely zero issues with his attitude. He’s trained really well, he’s fit into the group really well. That’s on him. He’s the one who hasn’t allowed it to become an issue.”

Will that translate to a start for Spence on Monday at Leicester? Unlikely. So long as Pedro Porro and Destiny Udogie are healthy, they’ll always be first choice. But it does sound like Djed will be given opportunities to push both of them for minutes, and that’s exactly what Ange Postecoglou wants from the players on his bench.

Good for him.